Question about skill unlock and elite skills! - Guild Wars Forums

zilebai · Jan 02, 2010, 12:32 AM // 00:32

(sorry for my bad english!)
I really want an end-game Nightfall skill for my character, but it would take me forever (just started recently). If I buy a nightfall skill unlocker on the official site, can I learn the skills I need at ANY skill trainer (even in Kamadan or in Kourna towns)?
also, I've heard about these elite tomes... how much are people selling them for? are they random? I mean, do they give a random elite skill or I can choose the elite skill I want?
Thanks in advance and happy new year (:

(edited typos)

Dzjudz · Jan 02, 2010, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Unlocked skills are available at all skill trainers in the campaign the skill is from.

With an elite tome you can choose the elite skill you want from the ones you have unlocked.

zilebai · Jan 02, 2010, 12:53 AM // 00:53

oh I see. Thanks so much. I think I'll buy that unlocker now

Siirius Black · Jan 02, 2010, 12:53 AM // 00:53

the guildwars skill package is only for PVP. if you want the skills for PvE you will have to unlock them yourself. What you could do is to do the missions that are necessary to finish Nightfall and have someone run them for you. You might need someone to run you to those cities also.

As mentioned above, you can also purchase Elite tome inside the game to unlock Elite skills that you might need.

Xenex Xclame · Jan 02, 2010, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Or you could do some pvp, like AB SD JQ FA and get enough faction and then unlock it at a priest of balthazar then you can buy the skill at any trainer from which campaign that skilll is from.

zilebai · Jan 02, 2010, 01:30 AM // 01:30

wait, what? I don't understand x.x So if I buy it I can't learn the skills at any skill trainer? But the description in the shop says this:
If you own the original Nightfall, you will receive:
* Immediate access to these unlocked skills for your Heroes and PvP characters
* Ability to acquire the unlocked non-elite skills for PvE characters through a Skill Trainer or tome, and the ability to acquire unlocked elite skills with an elite tome.

doesn't this mean I can learn the unlocked skills at a skill trainer? *confused*

Sparkmaster25 · Jan 02, 2010, 01:38 AM // 01:38

If you buy the skill unlock pack all skills that are under that pack will be unlocked on your account. meaning they will all be available for your hero's and PVP characters and you can buy not elite skills at the skill trainer and learn elite skills with an Elite Skill Tome.

Dzjudz · Jan 02, 2010, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by Siirius Black

the guildwars skill package is only for PVP. if you want the skills for PvE you will have to unlock them yourself. What you could do is to do the missions that are necessary to finish Nightfall and have someone run them for you. You might need someone to run you to those cities also.

As mentioned above, you can also purchase Elite tome inside the game to unlock Elite skills that you might need.

WRONG information!!

You should read the wiki page on unlocking.

The skill unlock pack unlocks skills. Unlocked skills are available to the whole account. PvP chars can use them right away. PvE chars can learn them with tomes. Heroes can use them right away. All skill trainers will offer the unlocked skills from their campaigns.

Tomes do not 'unlock' skills! You can learn an already unlocked skill with a tome on your PvE char.

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Originally Posted by zilebai

wait, what? I don't understand x.x So if I buy it I can't learn the skills at any skill trainer? But the description in the shop says this:
If you own the original Nightfall, you will receive:
* Immediate access to these unlocked skills for your Heroes and PvP characters
* Ability to acquire the unlocked non-elite skills for PvE characters through a Skill Trainer or tome, and the ability to acquire unlocked elite skills with an elite tome.

doesn't this mean I can learn the unlocked skills at a skill trainer? *confused*

Yes, you can learn unlocked skills at a skill trainer of the campaign the skill is from. Not elite skills, only normal skills. To learn unlocked elite skills you will have to use elite tomes.

Xenex meant this: instead of buying a skill pack to unlock skills, you can also do some PvP to gain Balthazar Faction and unlock skills with that. Something to think about, because you wouldn't have to spend real money to unlock them. Unlocking normal skills costs 1,000 Balthazar Faction, elite skills cost 3,000 Balthazar Faction

zilebai · Jan 02, 2010, 01:47 AM // 01:47

I feel so stupid, lol.
the end-game skill I really really want is NOT an elite skill. I already got the elite skill I needed with signet of capture. do I still need a tome after I buy the unlocker? if yes, how much can I get a normal tome for? (not elite)

edit: I don't like PVP, so I don't think I can earn enough factions x)

Dzjudz · Jan 02, 2010, 01:52 AM // 01:52

If you just need 1 skill, buying the unlock pack is extremely unnecessary in my opinion. 1,000 Balthazar Faction is easily earned by doing some Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry or Alliance Battle (try them, they're PvE'ey kinda PvP).

You don't need a tome to learn the unlocked skill. You can also buy it from a skill trainer. However, if you are already at the 1k per skill at the skill trainer, buying a normal tome is probably cheaper. Tomes have different prices depending on the profession. Assassin tomes are 150-200g and monk tomes can be 1k+.

zilebai · Jan 02, 2010, 02:01 AM // 02:01

okay, I think I understand everything now.
I think I might try PVP if I can find or come up with a good build, but I'm a PVE freak, so I don't know... my very first MMO was PK based and I always got killed while I was trying to lvl, and it made me frustrated. maybe that's why I dislike PVP =P but hey, I can try, right? at least I can't get PKed in GW =P
Thanks so much for the help, everyone!

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 02, 2010, 04:27 AM // 04:27

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Originally Posted by zilebai

okay, I think I understand everything now.
I think I might try PVP if I can find or come up with a good build, but I'm a PVE freak, so I don't know...

There will be heaps of stuff on PvXWiki. In low end PvP arenas like FA/JQ/RA it doesn't matter too much if your build is slightly sub-optimal (anyone who seriously cares about PvP won't be playing in these arenas anyway).

Kapral · Jan 02, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34

The best part about unlocking the skills is the fact that you have them on your heroes. I bought all the packs (except eotn if there is one) when they were 50% off a while ago.

Jan 02, 2010, 12:32 AM // 00:32	#1
zilebai Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2009	Question about skill unlock and elite skills! (sorry for my bad english!) I really want an end-game Nightfall skill for my character, but it would take me forever (just started recently). If I buy a nightfall skill unlocker on the official site, can I learn the skills I need at ANY skill trainer (even in Kamadan or in Kourna towns)? also, I've heard about these elite tomes... how much are people selling them for? are they random? I mean, do they give a random elite skill or I can choose the elite skill I want? Thanks in advance and happy new year (: (edited typos) Last edited by zilebai; Jan 02, 2010 at 12:40 AM // 00:40..

Jan 02, 2010, 12:53 AM // 00:53	#4
Siirius Black Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Dragon's Lair Guild: La Legion Del Dragon Profession: E/	the guildwars skill package is only for PVP. if you want the skills for PvE you will have to unlock them yourself. What you could do is to do the missions that are necessary to finish Nightfall and have someone run them for you. You might need someone to run you to those cities also. As mentioned above, you can also purchase Elite tome inside the game to unlock Elite skills that you might need. Last edited by Siirius Black; Jan 02, 2010 at 12:58 AM // 00:58..

Jan 02, 2010, 12:50 AM // 00:50	#2
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Unlocked skills are available at all skill trainers in the campaign the skill is from. With an elite tome you can choose the elite skill you want from the ones you have unlocked.

Jan 02, 2010, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#5
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	Or you could do some pvp, like AB SD JQ FA and get enough faction and then unlock it at a priest of balthazar then you can buy the skill at any trainer from which campaign that skilll is from.

Jan 02, 2010, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#6
zilebai Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2009	wait, what? I don't understand x.x So if I buy it I can't learn the skills at any skill trainer? But the description in the shop says this: If you own the original Nightfall, you will receive: * Immediate access to these unlocked skills for your Heroes and PvP characters * Ability to acquire the unlocked non-elite skills for PvE characters through a Skill Trainer or tome, and the ability to acquire unlocked elite skills with an elite tome. doesn't this mean I can learn the unlocked skills at a skill trainer? confused

Jan 02, 2010, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#7
Sparkmaster25 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Guild: Sins Reloaded Profession: P/W	If you buy the skill unlock pack all skills that are under that pack will be unlocked on your account. meaning they will all be available for your hero's and PVP characters and you can buy not elite skills at the skill trainer and learn elite skills with an Elite Skill Tome.

Jan 02, 2010, 01:47 AM // 01:47	#9
zilebai Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2009	I feel so stupid, lol. the end-game skill I really really want is NOT an elite skill. I already got the elite skill I needed with signet of capture. do I still need a tome after I buy the unlocker? if yes, how much can I get a normal tome for? (not elite) edit: I don't like PVP, so I don't think I can earn enough factions x)

Jan 02, 2010, 01:52 AM // 01:52	#10
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	If you just need 1 skill, buying the unlock pack is extremely unnecessary in my opinion. 1,000 Balthazar Faction is easily earned by doing some Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry or Alliance Battle (try them, they're PvE'ey kinda PvP). You don't need a tome to learn the unlocked skill. You can also buy it from a skill trainer. However, if you are already at the 1k per skill at the skill trainer, buying a normal tome is probably cheaper. Tomes have different prices depending on the profession. Assassin tomes are 150-200g and monk tomes can be 1k+.

Jan 02, 2010, 02:01 AM // 02:01	#11
zilebai Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2009	okay, I think I understand everything now. I think I might try PVP if I can find or come up with a good build, but I'm a PVE freak, so I don't know... my very first MMO was PK based and I always got killed while I was trying to lvl, and it made me frustrated. maybe that's why I dislike PVP =P but hey, I can try, right? at least I can't get PKed in GW =P Thanks so much for the help, everyone!

Jan 02, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34	#13
Kapral Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2007 Guild: [LOD] Profession: R/	The best part about unlocking the skills is the fact that you have them on your heroes. I bought all the packs (except eotn if there is one) when they were 50% off a while ago.